Stop Tidying Wiki

Wiki, unlike WikiPedia, is an intentionally messy place. People get together here haphazardly, work out which other PeopleProjectsAndPatterns they want to work with, glom things together and then make something of them. Or they don't, and the ideas hang around here exerting WikiAji, perhaps becoming useful again later on. Perhaps not. But that's not for you to say because you don't have some godlike vision of what will and what won't become useful content in the future.

Therefore,

If you don't know what a page is good for, or what it means, or who on earth could be interested in it, Leave It Be. You're not qualified to decide to delete it, edit it, refactor it, or do anything else with it. It's not for you. Go do something you know how to do and stop hacking up other people's stuff.

But,

Just because you say this doesn't make it true. If you want a forum where people won't edit your posts - start your own website..

What I say here generally becomes true. -- PeterMerel, joking, natch. But seriously, I'm not suggesting people not edit each others' edits. I'm suggesting that being a GoodWikiCitizen means treating each others' edits gently, and allow the WikiNow sufficient RealTime to do its stuff.

Well what I say to others here generally becomes LaynesLaw. -- LayneThomas (you can debate whether that's generally true or not ;)), but I do agree with being polite - when tempered with appropriate wisdom (how's that for vague). Seriously though, I generally delete pages like YourMotherPeesOnYou?, GreatViagraDeal?, HereIsMeRantingAboutSomeRandomTopicNotEvenVaguelyRelatedToSoftware?, or ThisPageShouldReallyBeOnWikipedia? types pages. I virtually never delete pages about software (unless I created them and therefore have rights)

Yes, the FuBar pages should be deleted; you know what they mean, what they're good for, and who would be interested in them. Nothing and no one. The specific delete that prompted this rant was CategoryCategoryCategory. This does not fit your criteria but it is sadly common that a certain person whose identity is unimportant deletes such stuff. Presumably because he or she doesn't know what it means, what it's good for, or who could possibly be interested in it.
I agree mostly, Peter, but I have to draw the line somewhere. The wiki does have a fundamental purpose, and that's to discuss PeopleProjectsAndPatterns.

I'm tired of you trolling, Peter. You want to pretend you don't know what I'm talking about go ahead, I don't give a damn. It's not the first time when you try ShiftingTheBurdenOfProof, so I'll respond to you when you simply cut all the crap.

Sometimes you see pages that are obviously bad and out-of-bounds. SuggestiveHypnosis? was a great example of one of these pages. Sure it had content, and it might even be interesting, but there are a lot of wikis out there, and even a few of our SisterSites, that would be far better venues for such a discussion. I'm all for live-and-let-live, but we do need to keep a certain amount of topicality to wiki or it will dissolve into a bubbling soup, making it difficult for new permanent content to emerge.


Because that's the way all wiki content has ever been generated. It goes back and forth, pages spin off, pages get deleted, pages get reinterpreted, and the WikiNow continues. As for respecting community values, you, Costin, have taken far more stick on that than I ever did. As for my desiring things to happen, I just emit a signal, other people just emit signals, the signals mix around in peoples' noggins, it all goes round and round, wo-wo, and it comes out here. -- DeleteMe.

Anyway, did I not ThereforeBut right here on this page? -- DeleteMe.

Oh, don't get him started. -- EasternWuss

Well surely if he's that advanced, he'd have a page describing his philosophy. . . or he'd put it on this page he created. at least in theory. . . -- LayneThomas

They tried to warn you ... simply, WikiHasIdentityNotPurpose?.
Am I the only one who wonders why this page was(is) called StopTidyingWiki?

CompellingIrritant apparently.
If you don't know what a page is good for, or what it means, or who on earth could be interested in it, Leave It Be. You're not qualified to decide to delete it, edit it, refactor it, or do anything else with it. It's not for you. Go do something you know how to do and stop hacking up other people's stuff.

Or ask questions on that page. If you don't get intelligent answers, drop hints. So long as the page stays on RecentChanges people will discuss until consensus is reached. If the author's can't explain why the page is brilliant, it probably isn't all that brilliant after all. Don't be too quick to delete, but don't leave crap lying around forever either. --BenAveling
This page does not need any category. But if it did, it would be CategoryWiki, so we'll just mention that here in passing. <cough>

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